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(Independent Institute). American conservatives have even assailed A-bomb dissent as typically leftist and anti-American but many of the early critics of the atomic bomb were conservatives.
Every year Independent Institute debunks the conventional nonsense over how the bombings were necessary to prevent loss of life. Let's keep in mind that the US had cut off Japanese imports several months before the bombings. There are accounts that the Japanese were willing to surrender to FDR before Yalta on a condition they retain their emperor--which we conceded in the end. FDR laughed it off--a monstrous war crime; he wanted "unconditional surrender". Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings are morally indefensible.
(Independent Institute). "The explosion killed an estimated 40,000 to 75,000 persons immediately, and perhaps as many as 80,000 died by the end of 1945 from the effects of their wounds and radiation sickness. Nearly all of the victims were civilians." Read more from Robert Higgs.
The Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings were American war crimes. What Truman did was unconscionable. The Japanese war could have and should have ended months earlier on essentially the same terms: they simply wanted to retain their emperor.
Nanking, Manchuria, Korea, Bataan.. look them up and then let's talk about war crimes.
[Troll] , I'm not here to discuss what Japan did to other countries. We are responsible for our own actions. But in Pearl Harbor, the Japanese attacked military targets.
Do you really want an itemized list of other American/Allied war crimes? I suggest that you read up on the firebombings in Dresden and Tokyo. This excerpt on Dresden from Wikipedia:
"So many people were horribly burnt and injured. It became more and more difficult to breathe. It was dark and all of us tried to leave this cellar with inconceivable panic. Dead and dying people were trampled upon, luggage was left or snatched up out of our hands by rescuers. The basket with our twins covered with wet cloths was snatched up out of my mother's hands and we were pushed upstairs by the people behind us. We saw the burning street, the falling ruins and the terrible firestorm. My mother covered us with wet blankets and coats she found in a water tub.
We saw terrible things: cremated adults shrunk to the size of small children, pieces of arms and legs, dead people, whole families burnt to death, burning people ran to and fro, burnt coaches filled with civilian refugees, dead rescuers and soldiers, many were calling and looking for their children and families, and fire everywhere, everywhere fire, and all the time the hot wind of the firestorm threw people back into the burning houses they were trying to escape from.
I cannot forget these terrible details. I can never forget them."
Another account:
"To my left I suddenly see a woman. I can see her to this day and shall never forget it. She carries a bundle in her arms. It is a baby. She runs, she falls, and the child flies in an arc into the fire.
Suddenly, I saw people again, right in front of me. They scream and gesticulate with their hands, and then—to my utter horror and amazement—I see how one after the other they simply seem to let themselves drop to the ground. (Today I know that these unfortunate people were the victims of lack of oxygen). They fainted and then burnt to cinders."
It sort of makes you patriotically correct hypocrites/creeps want to chant "USA! USA! USA!", doesn't it?
"Tinian, Mariana Islands · March 27, 1945
An island nation, Japan was vulnerable to a blockade of essential food and strategic materials. On this date in 1945 the U.S. Army Air Forces and the U.S. Navy, hoping to put the final nail in the enemy’s coffin, kicked off Operation Starvation, the aerial mining of Japanese waters. Three nights later 85 more “miners” followed suit. By beginning the nighttime aerial dropping of mines (eventually 12,000 mines) in rivers and coastal waters, Maj. Gen. Curtis LeMay’s Marianas-based B‑29 Superfortresses accessed Japanese waters too shallow or close to land for Allied submarines to enforce a sea blockade. The five-month-long aerial campaign saw the near destruction of Japanese coastal shipping and shipping lanes, halting Japan’s importation of critical raw materials and food and forcing the abandonment of 35 of 47 vital convoy routes. Adding LeMay’s incendiary raids on urban and military-industrial areas to the destructive mix reduced Japan’s overall production in 1945 by two-thirds compared with the year before. Already in 1940 rice—the chief item in the Japanese diet—had been subject to rationing due to bad harvests in the Japanese colony of Korea and the demands of the Japanese military in China (since 1937) and Southeast Asia (since 1941). Fish, the other dietary staple, had all but ceased to be distributed in some areas in 1944. Food supplies were so meager that the average Japanese citizen was living at or near starvation level. Average civilian caloric intake in 1945 was 78 percent of the minimum needed for health and physical performance. By the end of June the civilian population began to show signs of panic. Experts predicted deaths by starvation would exceed seven million were Japan to somehow muster the will and resources to wage war through 1946. With the benefit of hindsight, Japan’s formal surrender on September 2, 1945, was inevitable even without Hiroshima and Nagasaki, without Soviet entry into the war on August 8, 1945, and without the ghastly number of casualties projected by invading the Japanese island of Kyūshū in late 1945 and the main island of Honshū in April 1946 (Operation Downfall). "
Intentionally starving people; doesn't that make you "proud" to be an American?
http://ww2days.com/japan-targeted-for-starvation-2.html
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If Japan was so willing to surrender they why did it take two abombs for them to surrender? It's because they had no intention of surrender. They were training women and children to kill. They were digging in with tunnels and caves and bunkers.
[Troll], where did you get lost? STOP BELIEVING GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA taught in government schools.
I said that FDR already had been given terms:
"In an article that finally appeared August 19, 1945, on the front pages of the Chicago Tribune (mentioned below) and the Washington Times-Herald, Trohan revealed that on January 20, 1945, two days prior to his departure for the Yalta meeting with Stalin and Churchill, President Roosevelt received a 40-page memorandum from General Douglas MacArthur outlining five separate surrender overtures from high-level Japanese officials. The complete text of Trohan's article is in the Winter 1985-86 Journal, pp. 508-512.
"This memo showed that the Japanese were offering surrender terms virtually identical to the ones ultimately accepted by the Americans at the formal surrender ceremony on September 2 -- that is, complete surrender of everything but the person of the Emperor. Specifically, the terms of these peace overtures included:
Complete surrender of all Japanese forces and arms, at home, on island possessions, and in occupied countries.
Occupation of Japan and its possessions by Allied troops under American direction.
Japanese relinquishment of all territory seized during the war, as well as Manchuria, Korea and Taiwan.
Regulation of Japanese industry to halt production of any weapons and other tools of war.
Release of all prisoners of war and internees.
Surrender of designated war criminals."
http://en.metapedia.org/.../FDR_denied_Japanese_surrender...
May FDR burn in hell for eternity.
(Independent Institute). Ask a typical American how the United States got into World War II, and he will almost certainly tell you that the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor and the Americans fought back.
As usual, you have the patriotically correct "conservatives" unable to read past the propaganda they learned at government schools. Sad, but they are simply in a state of denial.
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